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paul croxson · AFFILIATION

We are associated to the 'Royal Signals Association ' which has always been totally acceptable to the members of the I Corps who are members. There is, however, a feeling amongst some of us that the connection with the Intelligence Corps could be and should be strengthened and that this may well lead to a stronger participation by the 'ex-I Corps' and boost our membership.
What would be the reaction of the members to my suggesting that the Group also seeks a form of affiliation with the Intelligence Corps Association? They are now very much aware of our existence which can only be for the better particularly in view of the Memorial Celebrations in 2009.

ken vipond

Hi Paul,you seem to be talking a bit of sense these day,s,have they changed your medication ???? i think it is good idea what you have proposed,considering the Y connection with I corps and Royal Sigs,it is certainly worth throwing it about for more suggestions,im not to sure about an official affiliation with the I Corps Association but i think there is room for a contact and maybe invites to our reunions and vice versa,best regards from Ken.

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paul croxson

Thanks Ken.
I did not foresee any formal affiliation indeed it may not be possible but as you say there should be some acknowledgement of our (Langeleben) existence. I was amazed on visiting them how little was known of us and our antics including tthose of the guists who miss out all round

David Thomas

Hi All, some form of association would seem an obvious thing to do, one wonders why we haven’t already linked up. All the best. Dave T

kerby

Paul, I must confess that I did not consider the I Corps guys at Langeleben as any different from the R. Sigs. We were all 'Langites' and therefore all doing the same job at Langeleben. A great team of guys doing a job for our country. Therefore, we must have a link between our units. Keith

paul croxson

Keith, you are quite right. To all intents we were Signals, cap badge and all but we would have been happier as I Corps. After all we had worked hard for the priviledge.
I get the impression that there is agreement on this idea and all we need is the approval of the committee. An informal relationship will not affect the constitution and if it did, it should be changed

jr

Ernie Callaghan · Affiliation

An interesting topic and the idea has it's merits but could open up the whole ball game of what about the other Regiments or Corps that also served there, R.E.M.E. Pay corps R.A.C.C. Royal Engineers etc. Our Reunion Branch covers all who served at Langeleben and that is what makes it unique. The Langeleben concept is not about Regiments, Corps, or even ranks, it is about common experiences and friendships.

paul croxson

An interesting perspective Ernie but, applying the logic of your argument would result in an indisputable case for dis-associating from the Royal Signals. Where is the consistency? And, let's be brutal here, the case for the I. Corps is in a totally different league from ANY other Regt or Corps. The 'raison d'etre' of Langeleben was as an Intelligence source, NOT a camp for cooks. How many Pay Corps personnel in total served there?
I am sorry but I don't accept the validity of your argument.

ken vipond

Paul,why do we always throw spanners in the works,any body who spent time at Langeleben whether they be I corps,R.sigs,pay corp,catering corp.r.e.m.e.royal artillery or what ever,they all played a vital role in the operation of the camp,and are part of the history of the camp,best regards from ken.

paul croxson

Ken, the LAST thing I want to do is to cause ill-feeling. may I suggest that you go back to my first posting on this subject?
All I have then done is to point out to Ernie that his reasons for not having a form of association with the I Corps would, if we were being logical, equally apply to an association with the Signals. And who would want that? Not me.
JR, in his posting hit several nails on several heads.
As far as the current organisers of the Int Corps Assoc are concerned Langeleben does not exist. I am doing my best to correct this since we are partly to blame.
Yes, I am(was) hoping to get some money from them for the memorial beano and how much better our case would be were we to have some sort of official relationship. The ICA was a wealthy organisation but have been under quite a financial strain supporting the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. Chicksands is almost deserted nowadays
The "Rose and the Laurel" the Corps magazine is a splendidid somewhat sporadic publication and I want to ensure that Langeleben gets a good mention in the December issue that may result in an increase in membership and even better get them to join us next year in Konigslutter.
If that is 'putting spanners in to works' then so be it. I was also going to suggest that we could at the same time ask for donations to the memorial from those I Corps members not interested in the Group or going to Konigslutter but after the reactions from some I have to ask myself "why bother?"

ken vipond

Hi Paul,i appreciate your explanation of your previous post,all i was trying to point out was that Langeleben was,nt just about Royal Signals and I Corps,over the years the camp was open, i think there must have been dozens of different badges worked on the camp,so sorry if i upset you,best regards from ken. Cool

paul croxson

Thanks Ken, everything is fine.

jr

As a footnote:
When I was masterminding the close-down in 1992 I wrote begging letters to as many Corps who I thought had ever served at Langeleben. The Signals and I Corps both gave us a generous grant Very Happy

, the rest gave us a raspberry Razz

and one Corps who shall remain nameless (but I hope his eggs remain hard) congratulated me for my cheek.

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