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Phonetics

At 224 - 1960 - we were taught the Nato system - Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta etc

On reaching Langeleben the old (American?) system of Able Baker Charlie Dog etc was solely used.

When did Nato lingo become fully operational?

Hope my memory's not kidding me!!
RonB

I had to learn the Able, Baker - Zebra version on the Sigint course in August '54 and then had to learn the NATO Alpha Bravo in early '55  either in the last days at Munster or first weeks at Birgelin. There were some old soldiers who used an even earlier version  and one notable Corporal Riley, I think, who had his own including M for Monkey and N for Nuts.  All part of the Y (for Yoke) tapestry!
I've never heard the Able, Baker version referred to as American though.
paul croxson

Not surprisingly, I can confirm what you say Ron.
It was one of the hardest things to learn, a new phonetic alphabet, so deeply engrained was the old.
I can't place a Corp. Riley. Where was he? Munster, Birgelen or Langeleben?
RonB

I think I  made an error there , Paul  The name may have been Montgomery - he was on watch with Len South at Birgelin in summer '55.  There was a Riley or Reilly on the same watch. Both were Irishmen.
paul croxson

None the wiser Ron, but then, my stay at Birgelen was measured in days.
Bob Wells

I recall that I was down at the Regiment on one of my short visits and happened to be located on the DFC at the time.  There was a bit a problem with the site and a message had to be relayed by voice using the new phonetic alphabet.  It was Sgt Paddy Montgomery who passed the message; using not the new phonetic alphabet, but using his own version of profane letters.

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